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    2021 ? Wider, meaner Global car ?

    This article seems to say that Toyota may be planning to make a wider body, left hand drive capable version of the S-FR and that would set the release date back to 2021.

    All in Japanese.
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    Sounds like it would then compete with the FRS.

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    Or replace it.

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    It would be great if it is a global car, it would suck that it will take so long to reach a showroom. After 2020 some cities talk about banning fossil fuel cars from the centres so unless it is designed with hybrid in mind could be delayed further. Sounds just like the GT86 saga, but at least we know it will be good

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    I guess there's no S-FR coming to North America anytime soon.

    Toyota I'm breaking up with you, such a tease.

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    Worse than the No Man's Sky delay debacle.

    It may actually mean it will 100% come to N.A. but not for another five years.

    The wider body, means it will have similar width to the 86. Apparently N.A. consumers don't like narrow cars.

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    No we don't. I do a 100 mile daily commute (160 km) and that's a lot of opportunity for a giant truck to crush the life out of you. I'd rather have a slightly bigger car and avoid the chance of dying or severing something just because I didn't have that extra 3 inches between me and death.

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    Well, I found another magazine on the rack today and it had welcome information, basically, the S-FR project is still on the books. It may have a 3cyl 1.5L? It will be something to look for more information in the 2016-17 financial year.
    Each magazine has slightly different information, here's hoping this yellow one is correct.

    Sorry, didn't get a good enough photo and didn't buy the magazine.
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    A 3 cylinder is tough for Americans. The only car that I know of that even has one is a ford fiesta and no body buys the 3 cylinder version.

    It makes me think that this car is going to be a Japan only car, which is a total shame. People here really lost all hope that Toyota can give us something to dream about. Not Lexus, not the twins which is a Subaru, not Mazda, not BMW... Toyota.

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    BMW i8 has a 3 cyl 1.5L turbo as the basis for it's hybrid system. The gasoline engine alone has a specific output of 231 hp and 320Nm of torque.

    http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicle...ical_data.html

    Now, this is a toyota, not a BMW, so we won't be seeing that kind of power.

    Another notable, quick 3cyl.

    BMW's 2014 Mini Cooper
    2.3 seconds faster than the 1.6L 4 cyl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haysoos View Post
    A 3 cylinder is tough for Americans. The only car that I know of that even has one is a ford fiesta and no body buys the 3 cylinder version.

    It makes me think that this car is going to be a Japan only car, which is a total shame. People here really lost all hope that Toyota can give us something to dream about. Not Lexus, not the twins which is a Subaru, not Mazda, not BMW... Toyota.
    Supra seems to be a lock for Toyota brand at least:

    http://www.supramkv.com/threads/supr...of-launch.288/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panzer View Post
    Supra seems to be a lock for Toyota brand at least:

    http://www.supramkv.com/threads/supr...of-launch.288/
    I thought that was being co-developed with BMW?

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