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    IF the SFR were a 2017 model, what is the earliest we would hear about it?

    I haven't been around cars much to know how this works.

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    Today.

    Generally takes two to three years to go from concept to sale.

    The FRS/BRZ took longer.

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    A few google hits confirms my memory of learning the FT86 concept was going into production and be named GT86 in November 2011. (Disclaimer: It may have been "announced" earlier, without me taking notice.)
    I test drove a GT86 in September 2012 and ordered one, after a second and third test drive; in October and took ownership February 14, 2013. And a glorious day it was :-)

    So what I want to know is:
    1. Will the SFR go into production?
    2. Will it come to Norway?
    3. When can I test drive one?

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    The 86 was rumored in 2007. This S-FR was first discovered in about June 2015 when Toyota bought the copyright for the name S-FR. But the concept has been talked about in Japanese magazines since about 2012 from memory.

    1. Most likely.

    2. Too early to tell, at this point it's still up in the air on actually releasing them in Japan.

    3. When they produce them. So pr

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    late 2017 to mid 2018, if the fast track it (which it looks like it they have somewhat) possibly mid 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neme303 View Post
    late 2017 to mid 2018, if the fast track it (which it looks like it they have somewhat) possibly mid 2017
    Sorry, are you saying mid 2017 is the earliest we would HEAR about it being officially coming out, or mid 2017 is the earliest it would actually arrive in showrooms?

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    Dennis,
    It's good to see your enthusiasm, but the easiest answer to your question is:

    This car is still a concept, the earliest it will be released in Japan is 2018.

    It may become a global release, but that is not 100% certain.

    Toyota may wait and see what the response is like here in Japan.

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    My guess is, earliest coming out will be 2019.
    Balance is everything

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    With Toyota's new TNGA platform system, I believe things will move much faster since the platform doesn't have to be engineered from scratch. The pre-engineered pieces of the platform just need to be lego'd together. The engine is already in production for a corolla somewhere on the planet, it just has to be tuned for this application. The interior of the "concept" looked pretty close to production too. Nothing too futuristic, just average materials with hexagons cut out of them.

    The CH-R that was on stage at the Tokyo motor show at the same time, needed to add 2 more doors to the design and I don't recall an interior on that car. The production version for that cars is being shown in March 2016 at Geneva. With no significant changes needed to be made to the S-FR, technically it's already ahead of the CH-R in terms of production timeline.

    My assumption is they are fast tracking the CH-R to get reach a production goal for fall 2016 , and the S-FR in time for spring 2017. The relevant seasons for the type of vehicles they are.

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    This gives me hope!!

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    I was looking at how long it took for some other Japanese cars to go from concept to production.

    Suzuki Hustler -
    Concept - 2013 Tokyo Motor show
    Production - Approx March 2014
    Time: Approx 6 months

    Honda S660
    Concept - 2013 Tokyo Motor show
    Production - October 2015
    Time: 2 years

    Nissan IDX
    Concept - 2013 Tokyo Motor show
    'Production confirmed' - January 2014
    Cancellation confirmed - May 2015
    Time of death: 1 year and 6 months

    Toyota 86
    FT86 Concept - 2009 Tokyo Motor show
    Production - unveiled October 2011, first deliveries in April 2012
    Time: Approx 2 years

    (n.b. there was an FT-HS concept preceding the 86 in 2007, but it was radically different, with a hybrid V6, and commenced prior to Toyotas acquisition of Subaru, the project started again post subaru involvement. And the GFC happened).

    Toyota FT-1
    Concept - 2014 (January) Detroit Motor show
    Production - ??, will be many many years if it ever comes into existence

    Honda NSX (2nd gen)
    Concept - 2012 (January) North American International Auto show. 'Confirmed' by CEO in 2007, then cancelled, then revived, first genuine concept was the 2012.
    Production - Unveiled January 2015, but you still can't buy one until late 2016?
    Time: 3 years, or 4+ years, or 9 years, depending on your perspective.

    Toyota S-FR
    Concept - 2015 Tokyo Motor show
    Production - ???

    So it seems likely that if the S-FR is going to be built, it will be unveiled in production form by October 2017. I would assume they won't tease it as much as supercars like the the NSX and FT-1.

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    Also don't forget that Toyota is going to stop production on all Japanese cars because of a very real steel shortage. I'm not sure how that affects R & D or other operational deadlines but if this thing was to be built, it's going to be after they start production of cars that were scheduled to be built to be built first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haysoos View Post
    Also don't forget that Toyota is going to stop production on all Japanese cars because of a very real steel shortage.
    For 5 days. I don't think that's going to be relevant to the S-FR.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-to...-idUSKCN0VA15R

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    Quote Originally Posted by ubik View Post
    I was looking at how long it took for some other Japanese cars to go from concept to production.

    Suzuki Hustler -
    Concept - 2013 Tokyo Motor show
    Production - Approx March 2014
    Time: Approx 6 months

    Honda S660
    Concept - 2013 Tokyo Motor show
    Production - October 2015
    Time: 2 years

    Nissan IDX
    Concept - 2013 Tokyo Motor show
    'Production confirmed' - January 2014
    Cancellation confirmed - May 2015
    Time of death: 1 year and 6 months

    Toyota 86
    FT86 Concept - 2009 Tokyo Motor show
    Production - unveiled October 2011, first deliveries in April 2012
    Time: Approx 2 years

    (n.b. there was an FT-HS concept preceding the 86 in 2007, but it was radically different, with a hybrid V6, and commenced prior to Toyotas acquisition of Subaru, the project started again post subaru involvement. And the GFC happened).

    Toyota FT-1
    Concept - 2014 (January) Detroit Motor show
    Production - ??, will be many many years if it ever comes into existence

    Honda NSX (2nd gen)
    Concept - 2012 (January) North American International Auto show. 'Confirmed' by CEO in 2007, then cancelled, then revived, first genuine concept was the 2012.
    Production - Unveiled January 2015, but you still can't buy one until late 2016?
    Time: 3 years, or 4+ years, or 9 years, depending on your perspective.

    Toyota S-FR
    Concept - 2015 Tokyo Motor show
    Production - ???

    So it seems likely that if the S-FR is going to be built, it will be unveiled in production form by October 2017. I would assume they won't tease it as much as supercars like the the NSX and FT-1.
    Interesting to see the timeline of previous concepts. I think the next few months will be very telling in terms of possible S-FR production potential and timing. If we see it at all the big shows coming up (Geneva and NY), it shows that Toyota is serious and aggressive about bring the S-FR to market (as well as outside of Japan).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ubik View Post
    I was looking at how long it took for some other Japanese cars to go from concept to production.
    So it seems likely that if the S-FR is going to be built, it will be unveiled in production form by October 2017. I would assume they won't tease it as much as supercars like the the NSX and FT-1.
    NO LFA timeline?
    First Concept Feb '00
    First Production Oct '09
    Approx +9yrs

    I highly doubt they gonna take THAT long & I think, if they got enough backers they'll follow same timeline as FT86 imo
    Balance is everything

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