PDA

View Full Version : Rumor: 1.2L turbo for S-FR



Callie
11-08-2015, 09:17 PM
From Motoring.com


Toyota's plan to deliver a knock-out blow to the new Mazda MX-5 with its own pint-sized sports car has stepped up a notch, with news the compact S-FR coupe is likely to snag an 85kW 1.2-litre turbo-petrol engine.

As only the second new-generation turbo-petrol engine from Toyota, after the Lexus-only 2.0-litre unit that pumps out 180kW/350Nm, the new 1.2-litre four-cylinder (codenamed 8NR-FTS) can be fitted to front- and rear-drive vehicles.

That's the word from one of Toyota's senior powertrain engineers, who told motoring.com.au that the 1.2 turbo, which is currently offered in Japanese and European (but not Australian) Corollas, is being developed to suit a wide range of future vehicles from the brand.

When quizzed over whether the compact turbo engine could be fitted to rear-drive vehicles, the senior powertrain engineer responded: "From the design or development perspective, we do have this in mind."

Generating 85kW at 5200rpm and 185Nm at 1500rpm, the small four-pot engine would be a logical fit for the upcoming S-FR which has all but been confirmed for production by Toyota's sports car chief Tetsuyda Tada and is already on Toyota Australia's radar.

Even with 85kW the tiny sports car which is expected to cost less than $25,000 -- would be lively, since it's expected to tip the scales at less than 1000kg. For reference, Mazda's base 1.5-litre MX-5, which opens at $31,990, weighs 1009kg and outputs 96kW/150Nm.

Slotting in underneath the Toyota 86, the S-FR won't be the only new model to benefit from the small turbo engine, which could also power the brand's new compact SUV that's based on the C-HR concept and set to debut at the 2016 Geneva motor show in March.

The senior powertrain engineer said an AWD combination with the 1.2-litre engine "is possible" but noted "currently we do not have any formula", making the production C-HR likely to be front-wheel drive only.

Packaged with both manual and CVT automatic transmissions, the new engine is yet to make landfall in Australia but when it does it will likely require a diet of high-octane premium petrol.

"This engine if you use 91 RON it will run still but the power or torque will not be in the area we want to reach," said the engineer.

OKASFR
11-08-2015, 10:45 PM
Apparently it has 185Nm of torque FROM 1500rpm to 4000rpm in a flat line.

http://blog.toyota.co.uk/new-toyota-1-2t-engine

carboy
11-09-2015, 07:39 AM
What a cute little top mount inter cooler

swimstarguy
11-09-2015, 05:14 PM
Apparently it has 185Nm of torque FROM 1500rpm to 4000rpm in a flat line.

http://blog.toyota.co.uk/new-toyota-1-2t-engine


exhaust manifold integrated in the cylinder head

Boo!


The 1.2Ts high 10:1 compression ratio
BOO!


the car achieves 60.1mpg*
UK units and in a smaller car. Converted to US gal. and in an SFR I'm sure it would still do quite well.

I'd like to think that if this ever happens and, by some miracle, also comes to the US, I'd be able to pick it apart and get to work on tweaking the engine but the specs listed in there seem like this heart will be closed for surgery. :( I hope that the aftermarket figures out some easy way to bump up the power in the engine without having to replace it altogether or completely take it apart. I want to believe.

Neme303
11-11-2015, 09:53 PM
and so it starts...

motonerd14
11-24-2015, 11:17 AM
What would the servicing intervals be on a motor like this? I'm used to motorcycle engines with 5k oil changes and 15-20k valve adjustments. Do small car engines like this require similar work?

Ichitaka05
11-24-2015, 03:11 PM
What would the servicing intervals be on a motor like this? I'm used to motorcycle engines with 5k oil changes and 15-20k valve adjustments. Do small car engines like this require similar work?

Prob same interval as FRS/BRZ or current Yaris/Corolla. Nothing too crazy like bike.

why?
11-29-2015, 05:41 PM
it is motoring.au. Have they ever gotten anything correct?